The UBL Library Content sub-committee  teleconference

 

Tuesday 11th December 9-11 a.m California time

 

Attendees : Tim McGrath; Marion Royal; Peter Yim; Gunther Stuhec; Lisa Seaburg;

Apologies : Mark Crawford; Garret Minakawa; (both at XML2001 this week)

 

 

The proposed agenda is:

 

1. Welcome from Chair and appointment of Secretary to take minutes

 

·         Peter Yim agreed to take the minutes

 

2. Acceptance of previous minutes (as posted at http://oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/lcsc/admindocs/minutes120401.htm)

 

·         Amendment: Gunther Stuhec and Dave Lewis' attendance were missed.

 

3. Action arising from previous minutes:

 

·         Tim requested to invite Mike Adcock to join next week's meeting as invited expert Mike did not show up. Tim guesses that he may be at XML2001 this week too.

 

·         Arofan and Mark to list any changes to the spreadsheet structure to better align it with Gunther's methodology and the overall UBL objectives

 

·         Lisa will put that onto the website (and incorporate into the Starter Kit) some time this week.

 

·         Arofan to provide specific examples to Dave Carlson to assist validation of his modeling work

 

·         Gunther to continue his work to extend some of his work to show what the BIEs would look like especially what their structures would look like.

 

·         Gunther were not contacted by Mark or Arofan last week. As such, no progress was made in terms of TTSC's assessment and endorsement of XML Spy.

 

3. Reports on status of work teams

 

·         Team 3 XML Spy prototype for DeliveryDetail and PricingDetail (Gunther)

 

·         Gunther has added the spreadsheet into his XML Spy based schema.

 

·         Team 1 OrderHeader and OrderSummary (Marion)

 

·         Team 2 BaseItemDetail (Peter)

 

·         Peter and Lisa has worked on a few items already and has reached a shared understanding on the updated structure (spreadsheet v0.2)

 

·         Lisa could try mimicking Gunther's approach with XML Spy and see how that works out next week.

 

·         Harmonization (Tim/Lisa)  we'll try to evolve around a "master model" that Gunther will generate next week.

 

4. Discussion and recommendation of the methodology and objectives for future work.

 

·         Tim suggested We could look at whether to continue working with the Excel Spreadsheet, or whether we should go with XML Spy.

 

·         Gunther believes it will be more efficient for everyone else to continue work with XML schema right away.

 

·         Marion points out that (i) Government has to be tools neutral, and (ii) recommendations of tools should come from the TTSC  and it's probably within scope for us to discuss here.

 

·         Tim points out its just the "XML Schema" approach that we are making a choice on.

 

·         Peter agrees that we should go that way because most the spreadsheet serve wells for us to reach a shared understanding of the structure. We should start to get more efficient now.

 

·         The LCSC will recommend to the UBL group to take this XML Schema approach

 

·         For next week, Gunther will extract work from each sub-team (in their current spreadsheet format, if that's what they have been doing) to show an example of the deliverable. Each sub-team shall still be responsible for maintaining their segment of the elements as previously assigned.

 

·         Gunther will also provide documentation for the XML structure on 12/12/01.

 

·         Gunther has a 70-day evaluation key which he will send to LCSC members actively working on the schema now.

 

 

5. Scheduling:

 

·         We will defer the peer group review, in view of the above methodology change. However, we should move faster, past that, and pick up some time later.

 

6. Invited Experts:

 

·         Will invite Mike Adcock to next week's conference call again.

 

·         Jon is also trying to enlist Don Connellly of OAGIS to be on our Liaison SC.

 

7. Reports on status of other UBL subcommittees -- this item was dropped from the agenda because Arofan, Mark and Sue were not present.

 

·         Tools and technique sc -- no update

 

·         Naming and design rules sc -- Gunther/Marion reported briefly on the NDR SC progress

 

·         Context drivers sc -- no update; this group is not active now

 

·         Context assembly sc -- Tim reports that the CASC will be looking for use cases, which we could provide. Marion suggests that we could ask currently inactive members of the LCSC to take that up. [Agreed. Tim will work on that.]

 

8. Technical Editors reports, web site updates, etc. (Lisa)

 

·         To be updated onto starter kit -- time schedule; FAQ; spreadsheet v0.2;

 

·         New section "Document Submissions" -- the UPS document will be a start

 

9. Other Business

 

·         [Tim] Just received a message and their work from Andy Cardy of UPS (he was in the original UBL Mapping group). They have been working on mapping xCBL onto the ebXML Core Components. So we might having a new member shortly. Tim will send Andy's work to Lisa who will then post it on the website for everyone's reference.

 

10. Next meeting.

 

·         Next week (18-Dec-01) will be the last conference call until 08-Jan-02

 

·         Tim will want ALL members to attend, as much as possible.

 

 

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minutes taken by

Peter Yim