UBL LCSC Minutes

Tuesday - July 23, 2002

Attendees:

Tim McGrath (chair)
Lisa Seaburg
Mike Adcock
Bill Meadows
Monica Martin
Marion Royal
Alan Stitzer
Gunther Stuhec
Debbie Quezadaz
Terry Schager


1. Welcome from Chair and appointment of Secretary to take minutes - Terry

2. Acceptance of previous minutes – We don't have quorum, so the minutes could not be accepted.

3. Items under review

• Methodology

  Tim has recieved favorable comments from Joe Chuisano and Monica Martin. He also received a favorable response from Bob Miller, with minor suggested changes. Tim will consolidate the comments into a final document by next week

• Code/Identifier

  No comments from anyone
  

• Date/Time

  The subject of Date/Time and work being done spans both the NDR and LCSC subcommittees. Gunther and Mike will coordinate feedback to both groups and a new version will be produced within the next week. The position paper will be a cross-committee paper as a result. Mike has received no comments from the paper, but has received comments about date and time as a subject.

• Order Response model

  Bill Meadows commented that one of the code sets were incorrect. The EDIFACT Code table shoud be 1225. On track for finalization, but a comment was raised requesting a mechanism for cross posting of documents. Tim will discuss how to do this with other groups in order to set up this mechanism.

4. Work Plan

• Lisa has prepared a very good document referenced by the following URL:
• http://oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/lcsc/doc/WorkPlan16july02_v01.doc
• If anyone's name appears on the work plan, you are to complete your tasks and send Excel back with a status of done, include comments and send to Lisa so that she can complete. Tim asked if anyone had not read the document and asked if problems exist with completion of tasks.
  
• Lisa went through tasks and assignees. No one indicated issues with the timeline or tasks. Tim questioned the format of a spreadsheet versus HTML, Word or text file. Lisa proposed HTML, but since the document is built in tables, it may cause problems.
  

5. Schedule for next release

• The next release was to be complete by 07/31 for presentation on 08/02/02 at the next UBL liaison meeting. Tim and Lisa mentioned that a lot of consolidation of information, reformatting the deliverables and building a presentation will require at least a week to complete. As a result, it was decided to present the release at the next UBL Liaison Meeting, to be held on 08/16/02.
• A subgroup for the QA and Editing of the Library was created after last weeks call including: Monica, Mike, Sue, and Lisa. Lisa mentioned that some of the deliverables were late because of people traveling and schedules. This is putting this work behind, we can't create a new distribution until this is done.
• Lisa also mentioned that spreadsheet formulas are not working correctly and Tim has mentioned other issues as well.
• Lisa mentioned there are QA questions about multiple UBL Names that are the same, in the naming of Reusable type elements. There are many elements with the same UBL Name and different definitions. We need to be clear to the public and anybody implementing UBL how this works. Tim explained that it wasn't really a multiple because of the path. Using the Xpath name of an ID will give the uniqueness of elements named ID. There is still an issue around global vs. local attribute of the ID. If these are declared locally, there is no issue. NDR is aware of this issue and is looking into it.
• The bottom line is that a naming convention has to be defined and a consistent set of rules needs to be put in place before releasing to the general public. The exercise we are going through right now is proving out and testing the rules.

6. Reports on status of other UBL subcommittees

• Tools & Techniques -
  • Tim indicated that Gunther is shouldering the burden of this committee. If anyone can help, please contact either Arofan or Gunther to participate. Gunther joined the call late and gave the update: Gunther reiterated the need for volunteers.
  • Gunther is close to having the Schema Generator complete. Modifications to the spreadsheet, adding 2 columns, was indicated. Lisa will help to enhance spreadsheet in order to meet the requirements of the Schema Generator.
  • Gunther will develop a package, which will include the Perl scripts as part of the SG (they come www.cpen.com). This will allow people the ability to develop schema themselves, based on the UBL standards.
  • Rational Rose will allow the generation of class diagrams, but will not allow schema when developed outside the product. Gunther suggests we not use the product because of the duplicate work. Rational Rose is too proprietary.
  • Speak to Oracle about XML database (Debbie/Garrett). - No progress, need requirements from Gunther.

    Gunther has finished the programs this week. He is programming additional requirements into it. He will send it to Debbie
    

• XML Spy requirements

  10 copies have been approved for free distribution. A new version has been released (4.4) and is available. from the website. The current list for copies of XML Spy is:

  • Terry Schager
  • Sally Chan
  • Mike Adcock
  • Bill Meadows
  • Monica Martin

• Naming and design rules sc

  Agreed to accept Gunther's option number 3. Lisa indicated she feels as though we have no action items from the meeting.

• Context drivers sc - Nothing to report

• Context assembly sc - Noting to report

• Chairs sc

  Plenary it was announced that the Chair SC will coordinate activity across all SC's in order to produce a single, concerted output. This synchronized output will generate a sinlge, standard face to the public. LCSC will use the same version numbers from the NDR and context SC's in order to create standard version and look in deliverables.

7. Reports on status of other related projects

• Core Component Technical Specs (Alan)

  Alan - We went through over 300 comments, most of which were minor. A few significant comments are being addressed by Arofan et al. Most of our UBL changes have been adopted. New version will be released by 08/19.

8. Other Business - None

9. Next meeting - The next meeting will be held on 07/30 at 8:00 AM PDT. Marion will chair the meeting in Tim's absence.